tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post4744145162372595572..comments2024-01-29T13:43:19.270+05:30Comments on .: Love Jehad –Real Threat or Phobic Fantasy?madhukishwarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14753750751813113571noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-4707503610190418562014-11-18T23:25:25.438+05:302014-11-18T23:25:25.438+05:30thank you, Madhu Kishwar, for your well argued and...thank you, Madhu Kishwar, for your well argued and perceptive article. your article brings out the true pluralist spirit of India and not the pseudo-secular fundamentalism which passes off as progressivism. those unwilling to hear your voice only show how brazenly and dangerously nonsensical the Secular-tva can become, when the secularists are totally detached from ground realities. Dhanyabad, again, for the essay. keep writing such things which the hullabaloo of the noise-making politicos won't be able to drown........again, there are some best Indians (in various fields) who were Muslims and had Hindu spouses, and India will continue to celebrate them, even if some fundamentalists holler against them. but we must also remember that, as Madhu rightly points out, they were all strong believers in mutual respect between religions. that is the true spirit of India, which the leftists have always tried to undermine through their all-pervasive culture of disrespect for all but their own fundamentalist leaders. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07204311661981321071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-41877945273841267432014-10-23T20:21:59.248+05:302014-10-23T20:21:59.248+05:30You are right Captain Johann that children should ...You are right Captain Johann that children should be free to choose their faith when they grow up. But a free choice is possible only when both mother and father are free to follow their faith and culture so children are exposed to both without prejudice.madhukishwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753750751813113571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-22259994728592645902014-10-23T19:34:13.713+05:302014-10-23T19:34:13.713+05:30I say again Captain Johann has made a very pertine...I say again Captain Johann has made a very pertinent observation.OGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16958032501349563441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-28135909556824823402014-10-22T10:07:30.795+05:302014-10-22T10:07:30.795+05:30I think Emperror Akbar allowed his wife Jodha bhai...I think Emperror Akbar allowed his wife Jodha bhai to follow her Hindu faith if Fatepur Sikri palace for Jodha is to be believed.We have many Muslims who are famous and having Hindu wives like Nawab of pataudi,Saif ali Khan, Amir Khan or Shah rukh khan etc or even BJP big wigs like Sikandar Bakht or Shah nawaz khan etc.But the children always followed the faith of Islam.But the question is whether Muslim woman allow their children to follow the faith of Hinduism if their husband is a Hindu. Christian wives of Hindu husbands normally take their children to churches. It is not a Jihad but may be convenient for children to compare and follow a faith which they believe in.In christianity we have a system called cinfirmation which one takes after attaining a mature age so that they follow the faith after reading the texts..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02774636105865916484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-25562440592592564472014-10-20T21:19:06.414+05:302014-10-20T21:19:06.414+05:30Wonder why so many people responded Anonymously to...Wonder why so many people responded Anonymously to this article!madhukishwarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753750751813113571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-36360830620867591022014-10-20T01:32:47.817+05:302014-10-20T01:32:47.817+05:30It is disingenuous to claim that "even the ra...It is disingenuous to claim that "even the radical Hindutva groups do not object to genuine marriages between mutually caring individuals even if they be a case of Hindu-Muslim union." I think it more fair to say that most Hindutva advocates don't want Hindu girls marrying Muslim, or indeed, men from any other community. They have absolutely no problems with Hindu men marrying Muslim girls. Such attitudes are, of course, present in men of many other communities who regard the women of their community as their "property." It is surprising that you throw your lot with such men. <br /><br />I would also say that it is disingenuous to invoke Rotherham which involved the targeting of underaged girls.<br /><br />All that aside, even if one were to accept your argument, who decides what is a genuine marriage and what is a fake marriage? I don't think going down this route is at all helpful. Once a person has reached maturity, they are deemed responsible, even if some of them are immature. The state can only do so much and it can't protect every Hindu girl who falls for a Muslim man.<br /><br />It is a different matter with underaged boys or girls. Here, the state cannot disclaim responsibilty. If underage HIndu (or Muslim or any other community) girls are being targeted, then that has to be addressed. Our support for juvenile victims (and even adult victims) is next to non-existent and we do need to address it. But if matters involve two adults then I'd be inclined to not get the government involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-66098387861260009632014-10-19T07:38:49.717+05:302014-10-19T07:38:49.717+05:30I have read about all these cases in India Facts b...I have read about all these cases in India Facts but not collectively. The Rotherham case is serious but the British have not shown concern or sensitivity towards the British girls. We, in India have been doing the same thing, Unless we discard Pseudo secularism and a strange fear for being called Hindutva vadi nothing much can be done for the hapless girls. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-2079309859718288162014-10-18T11:57:25.619+05:302014-10-18T11:57:25.619+05:30Four years back, a local BJP MLA of Delhi, an acqu...Four years back, a local BJP MLA of Delhi, an acquaintance, phoned to tell me about the scourge of love jihad. I dismissed it as a malafide campaign and never spoke to him again. Nether did he call me ever after that.<br />But happenings over last 2-3 years and evidence coming to the fore has proved that I was wrong.<br />Madhu's assertions are attested by facts.Before I dismiss Madhu's article , I would have to disprove all the facts, data she has quoted.<br />I find none of the commentators is doing that.So, that establish that there is something seriously wrong among the educated class, or the so called secular class.<br /> I am going to post it to various forums. Tomorrow, you send your daughter to UK and she lands in pakistan as s domestic slave or with ISIS as a sex slave, or even in India she get into a position of no return.<br />Readers, pl note, I AM NOT ANONYMOUS.Diwan Singhnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-66576028460981335372014-10-18T11:03:29.287+05:302014-10-18T11:03:29.287+05:30You have such a way of getting things right. I ha...You have such a way of getting things right. I have been protecting and taking care of a woman who was victim to this. Most interesting is that when I met with a psychiatrist about the situation, he then told me about exactly how it is done -- as apparently there are many such cases. He was familiar with the situation in general.... and that means there is a lot more going on. I was sorry that the issue was derailed in UP, and became about romance and failed romance. As you put it, that's not the problem. And you are right that the left won't touch it. The anti-Modi sentiment among some of the young NRI's in US is terrible. They hold him singularly responsible for the "massacre of 1000 Muslims."<br /><br />So glad to be in touch.<br /><br />MichelleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-74596426399935890172014-10-17T21:56:03.224+05:302014-10-17T21:56:03.224+05:30An excellent example of how to use the skills of t...An excellent example of how to use the skills of the reseacher and the writer to write a piece of disgraceful and dangerous demagoguery - to selectively use other's writings and statements spliced and out of context to suit the lies being made out, twist facts and turn lies into facts, to make causal relations out of justifications, and to keep repeating them - in the hope that people will believe in the emperor's new clothes. wah madhu wahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-72349806978990090082014-10-17T21:30:13.891+05:302014-10-17T21:30:13.891+05:30absolute crap of a article, i am surprised that Ma...absolute crap of a article, i am surprised that Madhu claims to have written it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-70302110283067923452014-10-17T20:08:50.152+05:302014-10-17T20:08:50.152+05:30If this is nonsense then go join Isis and get bomb...If this is nonsense then go join Isis and get bombed!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-18665330159250264022014-10-17T19:33:54.246+05:302014-10-17T19:33:54.246+05:30An excellent well-argued essay, drawing on data an...An excellent well-argued essay, drawing on data and experiences from elsewhere too. Krishen Kaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7188722843562789620.post-13681422339235294392014-10-17T19:00:33.352+05:302014-10-17T19:00:33.352+05:30What a total nonsense. Shallowness for the sake of...What a total nonsense. Shallowness for the sake of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com